BvS : The Consequences Edit
Dawn of Justice Part 2
Dawn of Justice Part 2
Bad Movies Made Less Bad Presents:
The definitive "No Martha" edit.
The definitive "No Martha" edit.
Original Release Date: 2016
Original Running Time: 182
Fanedit Release Date: December 2020
Fanedit Running Time: 131
Subtitles Available?: Yes
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- Remove the Africa incident and change public reaction to events of MoS.
- Better establish the classic Kryptonian boy scout in the first Act.
- Remove Batman killing people when possible (he still “lets” bad guys die, but doesn’t kill outright)
- Refine Lex into a better villain – less weird, more obviously paranoid, less daddy issues, more calculated (i.e. making Doomsday as a backup plan more understandable.)
- Clarify the conflict the world has with Superman – its all about fear.
- Batman doesn’t actually see the future, does not see the Flash (I promise to update if the Flash movie is ever released!)
- Change Batman’s moral return to be prodded by fear and the similarities to his parent’s killing - not the realization that their mothers have the same name.
- No foreshadowing of Superman’s resurrection.
My fanediting journey began because of Mos and BvS, my passion project. I did a ton of work at the beginning, learning as I went, and my skills were terrible, but I could not stop trying for some reason. After the first year, I was happy with the result, taking out all the parts of the movies I didn't feel matched the characters I wanted. I showed my better half, and her response was that all the characters felt flat, lacked depth. At the time, I thought there was no solution for this due to the source materials. By this time I had also seen TM2YC's amazing MoS edit and Mr. Blue's equally amazing BvS edit. I recognized that I was beating a dead horse, and retired the effort. Their edits are the gold standard, and every faneditor worth a lick already has their own edit of these movies, so I decided to put my edits on a shelf.
Or so I told myself over and over again. I would constantly revisit my edits however, watching them at least once a month and making at least 5 new revisions each and every time, always with an intent to bring more character development and depth to my heroes. OCD if there ever was one. But it was also the greatest hobby for me. I design for a living, working within deadlines and creating the visions of others. Fanediting has allowed me to pursue my own artistic vision, on my own timeline and to the exacting vision I that have, not the client's. I do think the broader audience opinion matters, but its much like my personal art in other mediums I have done in the past.
When Zack Snyder announced his Justice League were on their way, I was once again excited, knowing I may yet again be disappointed. But my little pet MoS and BvS projects had given me new appreciation for the movies, as I now know pretty much every frame WAY too well.
My better half asked what the ZSJL hubbub was all about, and when I mentioned her reaction to my edits a couple years ago, she gave me a completely blank look, not remembering already watching them. So I showed her the edits as they existed at that point. And... she loved them! I brought up the character development issues from the past, but she said she didn't notice them now. Validation. These new edits were not the same as my first attempts.
Next up was to make my friends watch. Most of them liked the movies much better than the original, but one friend had this to say: "If the Martha Name Trivia scene is still in the BvS movie, there is no saving this franchise." And he still wouldn't watch. I told him it was hopeless, and that I think he'll like everything else about the movies. Still a hard "NO" from him, who is even a comic book collector.
I took to Reddit next, sharing my edits there as I was still not an approved editor on this site. Lovely complements, and lots of fans and followers, but not the real constructive criticism I was looking for.
And so, my OCD kicked in again. Over the years and especially since the pandemic, these movies have been polished and honed repeatedly. They have been compared with the original films again as well as the TM2YC, and Mr. Blue edits as well, for any remaining opportunities. Over the past three years and countless viewings, every viewing revealing more opportunities for making the edit just a little better, I now have two edits I can watch completely though without feeling the need to adjust anything.
Wayne family death flashback and funeral removed.
Intro rebuilt from Whiplash Dynamo’s “Batman V Superman: MORTAL Prologue”
Bruce driving stopping, with people moving out of his way removed
Wallace doesn’t recognize Bruce
Title sequence moved to after Bruce looking up, with “Part 2” added.
Whiplash Dynamo’s “Batman V Superman: MORTAL Prologue” Vignette added after title sequence recounting devastation from Zod encounter and that Congress holds Superman accountable
18 months changed to 6 months
Football coverage removed
New footage inserted of Superman interacting with kids after working with firemen
When GCPD arrive, they find the branded criminal but do not see Batman in the room on the ceiling (saving the first reveal of the suit for later)
Batman visiting crypt moved up to here, mixed with shots of parents murder and shot of Bruce in the alley over parents dead bodies (from Batman Begins, color corrected for better visual continuity) No blood or bat coming from grave. Cut to Bruce descending Batcave elevator. (to seem like he visits the crypt often)
All Africa scenes and references removed
Lois arrives at the apartment, mail shots removed, bullet shots removed
Clark and Lois discuss hearings, in regard to Zod battle
Clark getting into bathtub removed
Lex’s basketball intro removed
Mention of “metahuman thesis” removed
Lex only asks for access to ship, but uses his small tool to THEN remove fingerprints from Zod’s body and gains special access to ship control
Removed Wallace in his apt before vandalism
Removed Perry asking for a story about affair with superman over
Removed Clark showing Gotham mother the newspaper with photo of neighbor
Trimmed Lex’s discussion with Senator
Added Wayne parents’ death flashes as Bruce’s nightmare
Lois bullet discussion and subsequent trip discussion with Clark removed
Joker laugh added when viewing Robin suit
Bruce’s naked shower shots removed
Initial visual contact of Bruce and Diana removed
Lex’s speech tightened to remove him blundering
Mention of Pa Kent not traveling removed from Clarks call with mother
Perry’s line “there’s copy alright” while pointing to a blank page removed
“The Daily Show” removed
Knightmare scene reduced to just when Bruce is captured
Mention of Lois dying removed
Appearance by the Flash removed
Bruce’s discussion with Alfred removed the “two years’ mention
Bruce doesn’t drive into first car
Bruce doesn’t encounter truck with the turret in it, so he doesn’t destroy it
Batmobile cutting off top of truck slightly shortened, and shot of two people in truck right after removed (to hopefully draw attention away from the third guy – probably dead but I couldn’t remove more here)
Clark’s discussion with Martha slightly tightened to remove “you’re not a killer, a threat”
Senator’s scene with witness about Lex removed
Senator’s discussion with Lex in hallway tightened
Scene with Subway death removed
Tightened sequence when Senator recognizes jar of piss
Shots about Wallace’s paychecks removed from Bruce’s board room
Shots about Wallace’s paychecks removed from Alfred at home
Removed shots of cops getting CPR from Lex’s building break in. (try to reduce implication that people may have died)
Shots of the Metahuman file Icons removed
Clark and Lois balcony scene reduced
Lex’s Zod’s body move up and dialogue reduced
Lois’s bullet search removed
Clark and Dad in the mountains moved to MoS
Bruce leaving old mansion now cuts to Batman placing spear
Nancy Grace scene removed
Lois kidnapping tightened to remove her recognition of KGBeast
Lex and Lois dialogue on roof reduced
Lex and Clark on roof dialogue reduced
Clark’s line “nobody says good in this world” is removed
Clark’s line “there isn’t time” removed
Bruce’s dragging Batman by the foot and tossing him around by a cord removed, to remove discussion of parental differences
Metahuman file viewing by Diana removed
Re-edited Superman execution scene to remove “Martha” motivation and used origin story of Batman Begins to connect the parallels between the murder of the Waynes and the scene with Lois and Clark. Also added Joker’s laugh and Alfred’s advice from earlier in the movie.
Removed more shots of Batman outright killing people – no blowing up cars with people in them or throwing crates. Note – he still allows people to deal with grenades they brought themselves.
Trimmed so Batman shoots KGBeast’s gas tank immediately, removed lines about being Superman’s friend to Martha
Trimmed Lex’s dialogue at introduction of Doomsday
Mention of populated vs unpopulated areas by Major during Doomsday fight removed
Mention that Batman needs to “lead” Doomsday to the spear is removed, now Doomsday just follows after Batman
Mention of populated vs unpopulated areas by Wonder Woman removed
Lois gets trapped underwater closer to when she is saved
Lex found in the ship in the blood removed
Empty Metropolis removed
Bagpipes song replaced with new audio track, piano and cello rendition of Time by Hans Zimmer
Priest dialogue and discussion about funeral payments removed
Bruce and Diana discussion tightened
Movie ends with tightened Lex and Batman in Cell scene, and painting shot (foreshadowing JL)
Removed Shot if dirt rising on Clark grave
MetaHuman video footage viewing moved to credits, cropped CNN webpage out and added Bruce’s mouse clicks